Israel says it is threatened by Palestinians in Gaza. What a dangerous mockery to justify mass slaughter of women, children and innocent civilians. Maybe it is because of the Internet that more information is available day by day, but I have never seen so blatant a mass murder in recent history.
Israel's defence is like a drunken driver in a Hummer killing a person. The defence being that "I saw this boy on the sidewalk and he looked threatening, so in order to save my life I had to run him over." Israel's leaders are drunk beyond any civilized limit by military power thanks to successive US administration who armed Israel to teeth over so many decades. According to former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, Israel has over 100 deadly nuclear weapons. Now it is in the news that it is using deadly chemical weapons on Palestinians. Has anyone bought Israel's ruse other than the so-called "leaders" in North America – George W. Bush, Michael Ignatieff and Stephen Harper. Is there any other country in the world who is buying into this ruse.
Now let us turn to some supporters of Israel's actions in Gaza. Namely, Jason Cherniak and gang. They have libeled people left, right and centre. They use the term anti-Semitic so frivolously that it has lost its meaning completely (a complete disrespect to Jewish people who have faced discrimination and oppression throughout their history, including those who faced the horrors of the Holocaust).
On those who have been libeled by Cherniak and company, let us start with James Curran, a self-declared friend of Israel who has resigned from Liberal Friends of Israel and now has also resigned from so-called Liblogs as well. This gentleman was accused again and again of being anti-Semitic, including by Ezra Levant of the National Post. This was a blatant libel. Curran is far from being anti-Semitic. Then there is MoS who was accused of defending Hamas's using innocent civilians as protection shields – Cherniak himself made that accusation. I read MoS's post very carefully, he is nowhere supporting such a thing. Nonetheless, he was booted out of Liblogs because of that. I believe that was a libel on Cherniak's part. I then vehemently protested MOS's expulsion and the next thing I know I was booted out too.
Then there was the write-up on the top of Liblogs, Cherniak telling everyone how we must think and write. I thought it was flabbergasting and a severe breach of trust. The Liblogs aggregate was supposed to be one that allow varied opinions of different Liberal Bloggers and one that was not beholden to one person's point of view (much as the Liberal Party itself has historically been a broad tent allowing a diversity of opinions). Cherniak thus attracted many bloggers to his Cherniaklogs under false pretences. Now James Curran and friends have resigned.
And of course there is a long list of past libels and abuses by Jason Cherniak, where he labelled people who disagreed with him as anti-Semetic, and where he spread false rumours as well (such as the ridiculous rumour he spread about the NDP stacking the vote in Trinity-Spadina in 2006). If I were to get into these past libels and abuses, the list would be endless. That is why I am only focussing on Cherniak's recent actions.
In sum, Cherniak has become an extraordinary liability both to himself, to others, and to the Liberal Party that he professes to support.
Did anyone ever tell Cherniak that if you are in a hole, stop digging. But instead, every time he picks up an even bigger shovel. Is he reading other blogs and what people are saying about him? For example this one here has a very funny picture of Cherniak, and Canadian Cynic has a hilarious post on him.
Quite frankly it was the anti-Semitic smears that strengthened my resolve to oppose the current slaughter of the Palestinians. Since then I have read extensively on the tragedy and seems to get worse every day. The World has to wake up to this extraordinary inhuman slaughter and speak out against it. Thank God that European nations are doing it and the United Nations has made its position clear on this also. Even the Red Cross has broken its silence and is pointing out the atrocities of Israel. Recommend this post
Frankly, I am suspicious of all stories coming from organized Jewry, including the so-called holocaust, which they arrest honest researchers for disputing claims like the six million and the gas chambers.
ReplyDeleteConsider the other lies, the shrunken heads, electrocution conveyors, human soap, skin lampshades, all these ridiculous stories.
Well you throw enough mud, and soon the mud becomes part of the textbooks.
Sure Jewry was mistreated, just like the Japanese in Canada. I was going to say that maybe if Japan had won the war, we would be hearing about Canadian holocaust of the Japanese, but I cannot imagine the noble Japanese sinking to the depths of organized Jewry.
Think about the lies of the Israel Lobby today and extrapolate them into the future. Isn't it going to be self-evident that Israel had to defend from terrorists? That is how they will twist history, like they did before. Then make it illegal to challenge that history, as they do now.
AN OPEN LETTER TO PROGRESSIVES
ReplyDeleteDear Progressives;
You condemn Israel’s atrocities and Canada’s government for supporting it, but you don’t question why Canada has become so unflinchingly pro-Israel in recent years.
Canadian Progressives seem to be slowly dawning on the fact that it was the Israel Lobby in the US that paved the way for war in Iraq. http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html
The power of the Lobby in the USA comes from financing congressmen’s elections, and ubiquitous mainstream media dominance by Zionists. The result was that the media did not question Bush on the Iraq war until it was much too late, just as they are doing with Iran, and the Palestinian ‘terrorists’.
What about the control of Canada?
Media Control in Canada
In Canada, Zionist Asper’s property CanWest owns the National Post and 10 daily newspapers in Canada, as well as numerous local papers and Global TV.
The CBC was until recently run by the former CEO of the execrable Canadian Jewish Congress, Robert Rabbinovitch. He made sure that any mention of the Palestinian resistance is as militants, or terrorists. Also, there are now heartwarming Holocaust stories at least once a day on CBC radio. We have to be trained who to sympathize with.
CTVGlobemedia is also part of the Israel Lobby. The Globe and Mail is run by non-Jewish Zionists, and they run pro-Israel columns daily. CTV is incredibly biased for the Israeli side as well.
http://www.gregfelton.com/media/2006_03_02.htm
Lobby Groups
Aside from the Israel-shilling of Zionist-owned media in Canada, there are powerful Jewish Zionist groups set up with the express purpose of influencing Canada’s government to support this foreign state. Here are some of the most influential:
Canadian Jewish Congress - got a Liberal candidate booted for being critical of Israel
CJPAC - Canada’s AIPAC
Bnai B’rith -is behind hatecrime laws that criminalize criticism of Zionism
CIJA - Lobby group started by Asper
Israel Allies Caucus - In Parliament, with secrecy covering their activities
Control Over Canadian Politicians
How does the Israel Lobby influence Canadian politics? The fact is no one can get elected without support of the Jewish groups that make up the Israel Lobby in Canada. Without the support of Jewish media, a campaign will get no coverage, or will get only negative reporting.
Israel Lobby formed within Canada’s government
Why would Harper form an Israel Lobby in Parliament? How is this not foreign control? There has been a news blackout of this in the mainstream/Zionist media.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=4733
The Lesley Hughes Scandal, the CJC said she had to go
Last election, we saw Stephane Dion eject a candidate for her factual statements about Israel, at the behest of the Canadian Jewish Congress.
http://zionofascism.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/stephane-zion-is-a-jewish-congress-pawn/
‘Anti’-Israel
With the latest atrocities committed by Israel, progressive and peace groups have been protesting across the country.
You have been telling people to write their MPs, yet you never mention the forces that control the fates of MPs, and parties.
What good is trying to reason with a puppet, when the puppeteers are obscured and remain the same election after election?
You know no politician can get elected without genuflecting to the Israel Lobby.
Why deny the Israel Lobby groups that perpetuate war and a pro-Israel stance in Canada’s government, Liberal or Conservative?
By refusing to name the source of Canadian institutional Zionism, you ensure that Israeli atrocities will continue to be supported by subsequent governments, who will be as in thrall to The Lobby as this one is.
Good for the Jews?
I know that many of you ‘progressive’ luminaries are Jewish, like Judy Rebick, founder of rabble.ca, and that you disallow comments on your forums that name the Israel Lobby in Canada.
It is almost as though you decided that it would be “good for the Jews” to obscure the facts of Jewish power in Canada, so as not to cause antisemitism.
If that is your goal, it will fail. You can’t keep this kind of control hidden. People will notice the ethnicity of those who have been covering for the Lobby, and draw the obvious conclusions.
This will be “bad for the Jews”(well not really, but it will be bad for criminal organized Jewry and the Israel Lobby that progressives are a part of) but good for Canada. It seems this inverse relationship describes predatory Jewry’s relation with the world in general.
If you are not Jewish or are a righteous Jew, isn’t it time you got out from the skirts of Zionism-lite, and start to frequent real, truth telling sites?
It is incumbent upon you to stop dissembling about the Israel Lobby, and confront it headon if you are to have any credibility.
Canadian Progressives are Part of the Lobby
Interference with Canada’s electoral system, control of the media, and backed by billions of dollars– one would expect that politicians would be backing the Lobby.
Strange that so-called progressives are also working for the Lobby. You condemn Israel, but not the powers that enforce a Jewish/Zionist paradigm on Canada.
I don’t hold out any hope that you will see the evil of your ways, in your covering for the Israel Lobby. This is to inform you that your reign is nearly over. As people see you obscure the truth, they will abandon you and go where they don’t have a dozen Zionist handlers keeping the lid on the truth.
I leave you progressives who want to cage the truth with a thought:
“Today the tribunals are for those who criticize Jewry, tomorrow they will be for those who cover for them.”
http://zionofascism.wordpress.com
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Anarchore, I appreciate your comment, but I must take issue with your comments about the Holocaust.
ReplyDeleteThe Holocaust was a horrible tragedy and we should in no way marginalize it or try to pretend it didn't happen. It did, and denying the Holocaust is a disrespect to those whose lives were lost, and those survivors who have lived to tell of this ghastly event.
Anachore,
ReplyDeleteI once met Mr. Asper at a conference, and I think your allegations are outlandish and frankly troubling. I'll appreciate that you refrain from it, otherwise you'll leave me no choice but to start deleting your comments. I'd rather not have to do that, please be fair in your comments so that I don't have to start deleting.
Thank you.
I think you're doing a great job LeDaro.
ReplyDeleteWe should remember that the Jews that went to the Nazi camps, were not the Zionists. The Zionists, in fact, chose to condemn Jews to the camps, rather than relocate them across Europe. I think a leading Zionist at the time said, 'one sheep in Palestine is worth all the Jews in the diaspora'.
I know not believing every single holocaust tale automatically makes you out to be a bad guy, even with stories like the Rosenblatt's turning out to be lies, so I won't distract you from the great work you are doing, exposing the Israel Lobby takeover of political institutions in Canada.
It seems that every time I turn around, there is another example of the Zionist power configuration in Canada seizing power and enacting ideological conformity.
Ledore, I posted my reply before I saw yours.
ReplyDelete"I once met Mr. Asper at a conference, and I think your allegations are outlandish and frankly troubling. I'll appreciate that you refrain from it, otherwise you'll leave me no choice but to start deleting your comments. I'd rather not have to do that, please be fair in your comments so that I don't have to start deleting."
I'm having trouble understanding what you mean.
Do you not think that Asper is part of the Israel Lobby?
"Do you not think that Asper is part of the Israel Lobby?"
ReplyDeleteSorry that should be
"Do you not think that CanWest is part of the Israel Lobby?"
Since Israel Asper is dead.
But I am sure his sons are faithful.
Look by nature I am anti-war. I am definitely against war in Iraq. I think it is an atrocity. I also believe what is happening in Afghanistan is totally regrettable. If war in Iraq was for oil then Afghanistan is for some natural gas pipeline and the strategic location of Afghanistan for US purposes.
ReplyDeleteLet us leave it at that and I will continue to protest Gaza slaughter in my own humble way. I have been Liberal for years now but I have strongly condemned Ignatieff’s position on Gaza and I am sure not going to vote for him. Let us leave at that. The debate you’re inviting me into I wish to stay away from it. I believe it will not directly help to end the Gaza tragedy.
Anarchore, you have pasted the same links elsewhere and they were removed.
ReplyDeleteLeDaro can obviously do what he pleases....
There is a difference between taking a humanitarian stance on the issue of Gaza and racist screed.
The Jason Cherniak's and Warren K's of this world would like to label any criticism of Israel and anti-Semitic.
I'm not saying that unbiased historical research should not be done but you seem to be pushing an agenda that is offensive. Yes it's true that human soap and skin lampshades are unfounded but that does not diminish the atrocities that Jews (and other minority groups) suffered at the hands of the Nazis.
Cherniak_WTF, thank you. Well put.
ReplyDeleteThe real problem here is that in your condemnation of Israel you neglect to offer even the most basic observation of the situation that Israel faces.
ReplyDeleteWhat would you have them do?
In 2008 alone there were 3000+ rockets fired from Gaza into Israel. Anyone within range of Gaza lives in constant fear of death.
Now I am not saying that life is any better in the Gaza strip, but at some point in time something has to be done to stop the attacks.
Benjamin Netanyahu warned of this back when they were debating whether to unilaterally withdraw from the Gaza strip. He said that if they left, the terrorists would arms themselves and use their new freedom to attack Israel. It would seem he was right. There is a good reason why Israel feels threatened.
You're dealing with people (Hamas) who take great joy in the suffering of their people. You are also dealing with people who would kill YOU if they got the chance.
As for the anti-Semitic accusations, they get tossed around because there is some truth in it. Have you followed the press on this subject?
Videos like this help to debunk the "we're not anti-Semitic" response from those who oppose Israel. Heck you have people posting responses to your post with comments questioning the holocaust. What does that tell you?
As for the conflict itself, the bottom line is that you can't break up a fight if neither side wants to stop fighting. If Hamas was begging for a ceasefire and had stopped shelling Israel, then we would be in an entirely different situation.
Take a look at this video. Yes I know it is from the IDF, but look it over anyway, if for nothing but the video footage in it. How can you reply to that? Have Hamas found the perfect loophole? Use children as human shields so that they can attack with impunity? They can win either way - by forcing Israel to attack in an area where there may be children, or by giving Hamas a free pass to attack without fear of retribution. They use women and children as shields because it works - and blogs like yours are proof of that.
Bottom line? Israel is screwed no matter what they do. If they don't defend themselves, and instead let the rockets rain down on their people, then they legitimize terror and fear against their people. If they strike back, against terrorists that use women and children as human shields, they face international criticizm. So faced with this no-win situation they have decided that their safety is worth more than the rhetoric from those who have said nothing over the last few years as the rockets have fallen like snow over Israel.
Let me close with a question. Before Israel said "We've had enough." and started to defend itself, how many of your blog posts ever criticized Hamas for the thousands of rockets they fired into Israel?
Surely you were just as offended by the Hamas rocket attacks when Israel wasn't fighting back...
Right?
Right...?
Doyen, I will give you a short answer to your lengthy comment. I am sorry but I put you in the same league as Anarchore -both on the opposite extremes. Bye.
ReplyDeleteIt's funny that you classify my comments as 'extreme', when in fact I am more moderate than you are. I don't want there to be ANY deaths because of war - on EITHER side. I don't support war for the sake of war (as we see around the world) and I don't support the loss of life on either side.
ReplyDeleteThe problem is that it takes two to tango. Do you honestly see this as only a one-sided affair?
You're free to ignore my remarks if the reality of what I have posted makes you uncomfortable, but I'd love for you to answer one simple question.
If you were in Israel's shoes, and you had been on the receiving end of thousands of rocket attacks on a daily basis for over 3 years, how would you propose to respond to those acts? You say that Israel's current response is 'wrong'. OK, fair enough.
What would you do differently? What would you do if you were in their shoes? Just answer that simple question please.
Doyen asks: What would you do if you were in their shoes?
ReplyDeleteThis does contain some answers.
Doyen, ok you’re a little more balanced than Anarchore. However, I know this much that if people are treated like animals, now over 60 years, what you expect. Israel withdrew few years ago from Gaza but imposed iron clad embargoe. Food, medicine and other necessities of life could not get through. They live like sardines in a can. What you expect? When people are put in a desperate and nothing to lose situation they react in the manner that Palestinians did. As long as those injustices exist there will be no peace no matter how powerful militarily Israel is. Israel must never forget that it is surrounded by hostile countries – hostile because of Israel’s militaristic mentality. You have Lebanon, Syria, Egypt (Mubarak may be friendly but Egyptian public is not) and Iraq. It cannot survive on the basis of might is right and will always be a tinderbox for the area and world peace. It has to learn to treat its neighbours as equal. Move back to pre-1967 boundaries and recognize Palestinians as independent and equal state. Extremists’ reasons to thrive will die in due course. Without it do not expect any peace in that part of the world.
ReplyDeletePlease also read Gene’s link above.
Doyen, nice bit of sophistry there, does the IDF pay you for that or are you doing this pro-bono?
ReplyDeleteI'll answer your first question "What would you have them do?"
The problem with Hamas in one caused by Israel itself and it's policies, actions (illegal at that) and continued bad will.
Many solutions have been put forth (Jimmy Carter is an honest broker ignored by Israeli leaders).
Benjamin Netanyahu warned of this back when they were debating whether to unilaterally withdraw from the Gaza strip. He said that if they left, the terrorists would arms themselves and use their new freedom to attack Israel
Benjamin Netanyahu is a terrorist who celebrated the King David Hotel and has no qualms about comparing people to Nazis. Are you sure you want to use him as a source?
How free are people in the Gaza? When Israel retreated, they kept control of the borders, airspace, electricity, water... Humanitarian aid was reduced (number of trucks entering)....
Doyen, are you going to say that Hamas has not followed the truce?
That's quite the whopper saying that Hamas wants to kill me... Are you trying to make my manure meter go into overdrive?
Next time just scream "Terrorist" - really that what you'd like to do.
Hamas is a reaction to Israeli apartheid. There is a branch of the Hamas that has the support of the population because they offer services that are needed.
Trying to demonize them serves what purpose?
Would you like me to start posting the raging of Zionist loonies? You see there are radicals in every "organization". Your video is just one person and does not seem to represent the demonstration. Hardly debunking....
Heck you have people posting responses to your post with comments questioning the holocaust. What does that tell you?
Only ONE person posted such material. I don't think he was questioning the holocaust (you really need comprehension lessons).
He was also rebuked... what does that tell YOU?
As for the conflict itself, the bottom line is that you can't break up a fight if neither side wants to stop fighting. If Hamas was begging for a ceasefire and had stopped shelling Israel, then we would be in an entirely different situation.
Hamas has been open to a ceasefire. They even wanted a continuation of the truce... Isreal... well it seems that election spirits have influenced them...
Israel can easily stop.
You video for the IDF is pure shit. The IDF does not even have the balls to allow comments. I don't see Hamas using children as human shields. And, the other popular video supposedly showing Hamas using human shields is actually getting a child out of harms way....
Let me close with a question. Before Israel said "We've had enough." and started to defend itself, how many of your blog posts ever criticized Hamas for the thousands of rockets they fired into Israel?
Since when is aggressive oppression "defending itself"?
How many illegal settlements from Israel have you criticized? How many children killed by the IDF for playing near border crossing have you worried about?
Have you ever decried the collective punishment that Israel is imposing on the Gaza strip? What about all the cluster bombs Israel left around? It seems that you are asking for universal condemnation....
CWTF, your logic and reasoning are compelling. Injustices lead to trouble. Oppressed people react everywhere sooner or later. That is why Canada, US and European countries have tried to minimize inequalities through social programs. Leaders like Bush and Harper have little or no sense of it. Iggy lives in an academic world of his own and whole Canada is his classroom. He may be a great professor but as a political leader he sucks. Middle East and Israel are the worst-case scenario.
ReplyDeleteCherniak, I have always found it comical when people feel compelled to label a person as somehow a 'part' of something, if they agree with it. I don't consider those who object to Israel's actions 'terrorists' - and likewise I am not a part of the IDF. Heck, I'm a Catholic - shouldn't I be hating the Jews because they killed Jesus Christ? Naw, let's not go down that road - OK? If slapping me with a label is the best opener you have, then you should try harder.
ReplyDeleteI quoted Benjamin Netanyahu not because I admire him, but because he was one of many in Israel who felt the same way. There are those who say that had Israel not withdrawn from the Gaza strip that this never would have happened. That sentinment is running high right now.
Hamas open to a ceasefire? Funny that every time the international community demands an end to the fighting, both sides have rejected a ceasefire. It was Hamas that rejected extending the old cease-fire to begin with.
A big problem I see with many comments is that people seem to think that Israel is 'getting what it deserves' with respect to the incoming rocket attacks. In such a case, when one supports 'taking matters into your own hands' you throw out any chance for there to be a negotiated solution.
I don't support war. As a society I would like to hope that we can move beyond war as a means to settle disagreements.
Have you ever decried the collective punishment that Israel is imposing on the Gaza strip? What about all the cluster bombs Israel left around? It seems that you are asking for universal condemnation....
Actually I am, I want to see universal condemnation of EVERYTHING that is going on over there with everyone involved. At this point many people are trying to lay the blame at the feet of one party. (which party depends on who you talk to and 'what side they are one' - in this case of the original post, Hamas.) Trying to blame one side for side conflict is not only intellectually dishonest, it's just plain ignorant. Neither side can claim the high road here.
No progress will ever be made in ending this conflict if people continue to try and blame one side or the other.
To close, I've never been happy with how things have 'gone down' (overall, over time) in the middle-east. It's one big disaster with no winners, only losers. Blaming one side is pointless, since they both need to step back and find a non-violent means to settle their differences.
This might be useful in this discussion: Gaza: Dispelling the Myths
ReplyDeleteDoyen, the minute you use Benjamin Netanyahu to support your argument you lose. This man is a dangerous rightwing nut and fanatic. If he becomes PM of Israel the danger alarms should ring around the world.
ReplyDeleteThanks Gene.
ReplyDeleteActually I am, I want to see universal condemnation of EVERYTHING that is going on over there with everyone involved.
ReplyDeleteThen maybe you can start spreading this:
The Israeli military are accused of:
• Using powerful shells in civilian areas that the army knew would cause large numbers of innocent casualties.
• Using banned weapons such as phosphorus bombs.
• Holding Palestinian families as human shields.
• Attacking medical facilities, including the killing of 12 ambulance men in marked ambulances
• Killing large numbers of policeman who had no military role.
Israeli military actions prompted an unusual public rebuke from the International Red Cross after the army had moved a Palestinian family into a building and shelled it, killing 30. The surviving children clung to the bodies of their dead mothers for four days while the army blocked rescuers from reaching the wounded.
Human Rights Watch has called on the UN security council to set up a commission of inquiry into alleged war crimes.
Two leading Israeli human rights organisations have separately written to the country's attorney general demanding he investigate the allegations.
But critics remain sceptical that any such inquiry will take place given that Israel has previously blocked similar attempts with the backing of the US.
Amnesty International says the dropping of powerful shells on residential streets that send blast and shrapnel over a wide area constitutes "prima facie evidence of war crimes".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/13/gaza-israel-war-crimes
IDF using human shields.... maybe Jason and the coterie of "Israel right or wrong but always right" will have something to say.. apart from "that's that"...
Netanayahu was warned away from the site of the 7/7 blasts, near where he was scheduled to make a speech.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nogw.com/download/2005_netanyahu_ch_plans.pdf
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2005/07/18/mossad-chief-confirms-netanyahus-warning-of-london-bombing/
Not very nice of him to not share that info with Londoners!
After 9/11 Netanyahu said it was, "Good for Israel".
I leave you to draw your own conclusions.
Thank you, Gene and CWTF, these are stomach churning facts.
ReplyDeleteIDF= Israel Devastation Force?
LeDaro, you don't get it. My use of Benjamin Netanyahu is to show what THEY (IE the 'right wingers') are using as a means to justify this latest offensive.
ReplyDeleteIt's the same way the 'right' was able to use the 9/11 attacks to justify many of the actions that the U.S. took. (like Iraq & Afghanistan)
CWTF, you are asking me to be one-sided, which won't do anyone any good. The point of my initial post was to show that the original post was unbalanced, and that there was two sides to this story.
Look at the mess this is causing on Liblogs and among Liberals in general. People are taking sides, which pits people one against another. Instead, people should be taking the side of PEACE and condemning both sides.
Does anyone HONESTLY think that by condemning one side that (the side you are condemning) will change? Does anyone REALLY think that Israel cares about what people who hate them think? Does anyone REALLY think that Hamas cares about what people who hate them think?
Enemies of Israel and Hamas won't be the ones that influence them to change.
Doyen, CWTF (8:59 PM comment) points out atrocities by Israel. No civilized person or society can condone it.
ReplyDeleteCWTF if I have your permission I want to post your 8:59 PM comment as a post on my blog sometimes tomorrow.
LeDaro, there is a link on my comment @ 8:59
ReplyDeletehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/13/gaza-israel-war-crimes
CWTF, I saw the link but it will be good to have a headline:
ReplyDeleteCherniak_WTF pointed this out:
Something like that. I want to recognize you efforts, as you yourself do not have a blog. However if you're not comfortable with it then I won't. I will just use the link.
Sorry I did not make my request clear.
Go for it, maybe Jason "blows dead bears" Cherniak will get a TwoByClue....
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